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Hear, hear!
To a certain extent I agree, but from past experience trying to find a job, there comes a time when you need a paycheck and you simply don't have the leisure to stand on your principles about how much they're offering you.

Also, one time when I was asking for a raise, I told my boss, "I want this raise because the young punks you just hired, whom I am TRAINING, are making more than I am, and that's not fair." They agreed and gave me a raise. It wasn't a gender thing, but it was still an equity issue.

But on the whole, I agree that if people spent more time proving themselves by working hard and displaying a high skill level, and less time whinging about how unfair the workplace is, yeah, we'd all get ahead.
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You deserved that raise because you were training people who were being paid more than you. It was a reasonable request on the basis of your skills and experience. And thankfully, your employer did the right thing. Good for you!

I do agree that sometimes you just have to take a job. In those situations, I still believe there are opportunities to make your work the reason why you need to make as much as your peers (and that's really what it's about, rather than getting what "the boys" get, no?). Sadly, employers will pay as little as they can and sometimes I think they can sense desperation. :(

When I was first starting out I was that combination of smart, young, and naive that every hiring manager on a budget dreams of. I remember being ecstatic when I got a raise from $18k a year to $24k a year. It was such a huge raise I didn't even bother finding out until years later that the average salary in my area for my position was $48k. In that case, shame on me. It screwed me up for years afterward until I started refusing to answer the question "what were you paid in your last position?"

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Right on sister. lol.....The proof is in the pudding. The unequal pay still ticks me off, but I have always worked my way to the top most level I could on any job. By doing the best job I was capable of everday.

I am retired now due to disability but I still try an learn news things everyday.

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I believe gender bias exists, but I have to say I haven't been around it much in my twenty-year career in technology. I've never been at the top of the pyramid, though, so there may be nastiness happening in upper levels of management I don't know about. But in the "zone" I inhabit, I'm not aware of any overt bias. Fully half the managers I've ever reported to have been women, including directors and VPs. In my teams, an engineer is an engineer, and I evaluate them as best I can on the quality of their work alone.

Perhaps I've just been fortunate so far. There was one unpleasant incident, in which an employee (not in my department) was being dismissed (with cause, from what I could tell), and decided to play both the gender and race cards in an attempt to either retain the job or sue for a tidy sum. As I wasn't directly involved, I don't know how it panned out, but it struck me as a silly thing to do.

As I've told several people in the past, "they're not discriminating against you because you're gay/black/female/etc. It's because you're a complete asshole."

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